A calculated charm: elegance, courtesy, and seduction that serve deep intentions.
A velvet glove on an iron hand: Libra negotiates, Scorpio decides, and the agreement always tips a little to its side.
Getting what they want through negotiation, without hurting anyone, thanks to a fine intuition of others’ desires.
Hiding their intentions behind perfect politeness and letting others discover their determination too late.
By Thomas Guilhot · updated
Libra comes before Scorpio in the zodiac: the Greek authors called these neighbors blind to each other.
Initiating breath and stagnant water; Aphrodite in the east, Ares and Pluto at the heart: desire hides here behind grace. The first contact is delightful; the person compliments with accuracy, listens attentively, and one feels appreciated.
The 2nd house for the Sun: having, resources, subsistence. This combination often has an intense relationship to money and to the value of things: it can negotiate a price, appraise a work of art, and manage an estate strategically. It loves rare, beautiful things, deep perfumes, old objects charged with history. Material security matters to it, and it builds it with patience and discretion.
The difficulty comes from the gap between the smiling welcome and the hidden will. Libra seems conciliatory, Scorpio does not yield: others think they have obtained an agreement, then discover an inflexible will. The person may also seduce in order to control. Aries, seated opposite, would preach frankness; its representatives name their desires and force them to name their own. Those close to them end up appreciating this new frankness.
Scorpio with Libra rising loves with elegance and passion.
The seduction is refined, the feelings deep, the faithfulness demanded. Aries, seated in the west, would lead them toward frank, impulsive natures who do not bother with nuance. Their directness jars them and frees them at once. Expressing their desires openly, instead of maneuvering, would strengthen mutual trust and calm a jealousy always ready to wake.
Finance, the art market, high-end real estate, perfumery, diplomacy, business law, wealth management: the combination excels in negotiation and in estimating value.
They obtain a favorable agreement without rushing anyone. The Sun’s 2nd house would accentuate the importance of income and acquired goods. Their limit would be hiding their intentions too long from colleagues, who end up growing wary of them.
Deep colors, velvet, works of art, the scent of amber: the interior is refined and intimate.
The person likes to host a few chosen friends, elegant dinners, conversations that slide toward confidences after midnight. They keep their accounts with care and compare at length before a major purchase. Sharing their worries more openly, instead of managing everything alone, would lighten a very controlled daily life. An evening of confidences with a trusted friend would do them real good.
Crossed detriments: Venus, ruler of the horizon, would lose her strength under Scorpio, opposite her Taurus, while Mars, ancient ruler of the birth sign, would be weakened in Libra, facing his Aries.
The two mythological lovers would thus swap their houses; tradition would read in this a seduction turned into a field of power.
Shortly before dawn, the scales rise in the east, the November Sun on their heels, still invisible. The luminary then occupies the 2nd house: subsistence, goods, resources, gains. A solar Scorpio placed there would seek material security with discreet tenacity and know how to make what it receives grow.
The Sun sign depends on the day of birth; the rising sign, on the time and place.
Libra takes about 2 hr 45 min to rise in Paris: with the Sun in Scorpio, the rising sign is Libra for a birth during that rise.
A water sign, fixed, ruled by Mars and Pluto (modern).
The Scorpio signA air sign, cardinal; descendant in Aries.
Libra risingVenus rules Libra: its place in the chart (sign, house) colors the rising sign.
The page of Venus| Sun in Scorpio | Libra rising | Duration |
|---|---|---|
| October 25Start of the sign | 4:36 AM to 7:21 AM | 2 hr 45 min |
| November 7Middle of the sign | 3:45 AM to 6:30 AM | 2 hr 45 min |
| November 20End of the sign | 2:54 AM to 5:39 AM | 2 hr 45 min |
Legal time in Paris; elsewhere, latitude and longitude shift these times. The rising sign calculator takes them into account.
A charmer above all, often a strategist. The Libra rising sign gives grace and a sense of diplomacy, the Sun in Scorpio determination and an intuition for others’ desires. The person gets a great deal through gentleness. The risk would be hiding their true intentions, to the point of worrying those close to them.
With Libra rising in the east, the solar Scorpio lands in the 2nd house, that of having. Combined with Scorpio’s intensity, it would give a deep relationship to value, security, and wealth. The person would know how to negotiate and make what they own grow, often with discretion.
Venus rules the rising sign, Mars the Sun: seduction on the surface, will at the core. Their reciprocal detriments complicate matters. Venus’s position would tell how the person charms; Mars’s, how they act when charm is no longer enough. Their dialogue would make all the richness of the character.